Frank Gaffney: A member of Congress with whom I am very pleased to say we’ve had the privilege with to work closely is Congressman Michael Pompeo. He represents the people for the 4th District of Kansas in the United States House of Representatives. He’s had a distinguished record of public service going back to his time as the first in his class graduate of West Point, a Calvary Officer in the United States Army, in the business private sector, now in the United States congress where he is one of the country’s real leaders on matters involving national security and in particular, intelligence and on energy issues as well. Michael Pompeo, welcome back, its good to have you with us sir.
Rep. Mike Pompeo: Frank its great to be with you
FG: Let me ask you, if I may, first and foremost Congressman about the efforts you’ve been making on the ground as it were to prevent something we talked about with your colleague congresswoman Vicky Hartzler earlier in the program, namely the hijra if I may use that expression – the movement, the transfer of jihadists, known jihadists, from Guantanamo Bay where they’ve been detained, into places like perhaps Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.
MP: Right, Frank we’ve been working hard all across America especially in Kansas to make everyone’s voice heard about what a bad idea it would be to transfer known jihadists, folks who real blood has been shed to capture. Last week I along with Congresswoman Lynn Jenkins held a town hall meeting at the gates of Fort Leavenworth, just listening to the committee to what it would mean to them, what that would look like not just about ‘not in my back yard’. They’ve certainly don’t want it there, but they have a deep understanding of the risks associated to national security to bring folks to US territory where every plaintiff lawyer in the world will work to set them free, and jihadists will begin to find a target here as well. There are lots of domestic reasons its bad, in addition to all of the horrible foreign policy reasons to close down Guantanamo Bay.
FG: You’ve also written a bipartisan letter opposing this, I congratulate you for that Mike Pompeo. But let me ask you. In our conversation with Vicky Hartzler, she described an investigation she’s just conducted on the release of five particularly dangerous detainees, namely the folks called the Taliban Five in exchange for Bowe Bergdahl a few years ago. And the fact that the President violated the law in doing that in numerous ways, you now have several other laws on the books that will prohibit him from bringing these people to the United States. Do you expect him to violate that law as well, and what can Congress do to prevent such a thing.
MP: Frank, we talked a lot about that at the town hall. We had a hundred plus people show up in the middle of a day on a Friday to talk about just that. They were confounded they’d say ‘you all made it unlawful, and we said ‘we did in multiple ways’, and we’ll do it again this week, we’ll vote on another provision to make it unlawful again. And yet we’ve watched a president behave in this way consistently over my five years in Congress who just says ‘well you write something down, I’m going to ignore it’. Look there are few folks who are bigger believers in the power of a president in Article Two, but this crosses the boundary that is. I can’t imagine that there be any lawyer’s support. So we are concerned in spite of the fact that the President’s own Attorney General said that it would be illegal to close Guantanamo Bay and bring detainees to the United States, this President will go fulfill his campaign promise, one of the last ones left on his list to tick off over the next year and bring them back to the United States. It would present enormous risks to the country.
FG: Well it would and I want also to salute you, Mike Pompeo, for your leadership in another area. You’ve enlisted a number of your colleagues who, like you, have served in uniform to really put a marker down with the United States military that this could constitute an unlawful order. I hope that will be another break on the president’s action in this regard
MP: We do too, its unconscionable to put our military leaders in this position. Where the commander in chief asks of them something that is clearly unlawful, and my intention was not to put pressure on those amazing soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, but rather to inform everyone that you can’t ask folks in the military to execute an unlawful order, and I hope that they understand there’re members of congress who have their back in the event that they choose to make a decision that comports with their duty.
FG: Lets turn to another topic on which you’ve been very importantly engaged Congressman Pompeo, you and your colleague Senator Tom Cotton really led in the debate about this so-called Iran deal becoming less and less of a deal all the time bad deal to being with, now not even a deal according to the State Department, but you were warning about the role of the International Atomic Energy Agency and side deals and the like. Talk if you would about what the latest shenanigan has been out of the IAEA with the respect to the so-called Nuclear Program File of Iran.
MP: Frank, I’ve tried to make it hallmark of my life to not say ‘I told you so’, but what happened just yesterday is exactly what I feared back last summer when we were trying to convince this administration not to move forward with giving the Ayatollah the capacity for a nuclear weapons program. Yesterday the IAEA essentially looked the other way. It conducted an investigation, the history of the Iranian nuclear weaponization program, it found that they lied, that they deceived that they in fact had a program. Iran continues to deny that they had a weaponization program, and in spite of that deceit, the fraud that the Iranians committed during that verification component of the deal, the IAEA voted unanimously to let them off the hook and close the file and begin the process that allows the president to relieve sanctions on this terror regime. But having said that, we now saw what this watchdog did, it became it lap dog. The president said himself that we can’t trust the Iranians, we have to verify. And the verification actors have now shown their complete unwillingness to hold the Iranians accountable.
FG: That’s for sure, and as you say, Mike, the real concern here is the president also said that when we do have issues like this arise, we’ll catch them, and then we will force this sanctions to snap back, and I can only take from your point that there was a unanimous vote of the IAEA, that the American representative was among those supporting this kind of rollover.
MP: You got that right, I wrote (inaudible), who’s our representative to the IAEA, imploring him to acknowledge what the IAEA wrote, which was that the Iranians did not comport with their obligation about the possible military implications of their program and was dually ignored. Its not a personal affront, it’s an enormous deterioration in American capacity to do nuclear proliferation verification around the world. I assure you, other countries are watching this.
FG: Just in the closing couple of minutes, Mike, I would like to ask you about, this past week the terrific outside group Judicial Watch came up with a letter that I gather the committee actually had in its files that makes it pretty darn clear that we’ve been lied to by Leon Panetta and I think Hillary Clinton, certainly others, that there was nothing that could be possible done by the United States military to help those poor folks on the ground in Benghazi on September 11th, 2012. We now know that in fact that there were options that they were quote “spinning up to engage”. What happened? Where did that letter go in the opportunities that you’ve had to interview Hillary Clinton and others, and have we in fact been lied to?
MP: Frank, we’ll get a chance. We did in fact have that email; the committees had it for a period of time. We’ve had a chance to ask a handful of witnesses about it. We still have a number of witnesses including some of the most senior leaders in the CIA and the Department of Defense to come before our committee, after the first of the year. And we will get all of the answers about that. It is very clear, from that email and others that we’ve spoken to, that the military did have resources and there’s lots of disagreement, even within those military folks, with how quickly they could have gotten their precisely, what the restrictions might have been, I mean real restrictions, just can’t physically cover the ground. But what we now know I think without a doubt is we didn’t accomplish the most important mission. When you have a man down, you move heaven and earth to go get that man or woman back to safety. And that means moving everything as quickly as you can, as fast as you can, regardless of the risks associated with that. We didn’t do that. It was simply the case that the administration appears to have failed to take on that most fundamental task, which is if you send someone into harms way, you have an obligation to do all that you can to assure they are brought back safely.
FG: Just very quickly, yes or now answer, I gather from what you have said that the committee will not finish its work by the end of the year, it will continue into next year
MP: That’s correct, I’m hoping we’re wrapped up by this spring, but were not going to quit until we’ve done all that our duty requires.
FG: We expect nothing less needless to say of you Congressman Michael Pompeo, member of the house select committee on intelligence and select committee on Benghazi.
With Rep. Vicky Hartzler, Diana West, Rep. Mike Pompeo, Dr. Derek Scissors
Rep. VICKY HARTZLER (MO-4), Chairwoman of the House Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee in the House Armed Services Committee:
- HASC’s investigation of the Bowe Bergdahl-Taliban Five swap
- Dangers in bringing Gitmo detainees to the U.S.
- Constitutional rights for terror detainees in American prisons
- Inability of Obama to identify the enemy
DIANA WEST, author of “American Betrayal: The Secret Assault On Our Nation’s Character”:
- Recap of last night’s national security debate among the 2016 GOP presidential candidates
- Transformation of the West through the Syrian Refugee Crisis
- German Chancellor Angela Merkel honored as Time Magazine’s “Person of the Year”
Rep. MIKE POMPEO (KS-4), Member of the House Intelligence Committee:
- Possible transfer of Gitmo detainees to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas
- The military and Congress’ opposition to Obama’s presidential overreach
- Latest regarding the IAEA’s investigation of Iran’s nuclear weapons program
- Update on the Benghazi scandal
Dr. DEREK SCISSORS, Resident Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute:
- Criticisms of the Trans-Pacific Partnership
- China’s aggressive behavior at the WTO
- Importance of China joining the world reserve currency
- Impact of increased interest rates on American trade in Asia
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Frank Gaffney: A man I’ve come to regard with the greatest admiration as well as personal affection for his leadership in the war for the free world, both in the kinetic phases of it, frankly, as well as the phases that are now taking place in Capitol Hill. He is Congressmen Mike Pompeo, he is a member of the House Intelligence Committee, a member of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, also the Committee on Energy and Commerce, but in a previous life he was first in the class graduate of West Point. A man who went on to be a member of the United States Army, an Officer up there for some six years including a combat tour. He was also a member of the Harvard Law School graduating program. A man of many parts in short, and always a welcomed guest here. Congressman Mike Pompeo welcome back, good to have you with us sir.
Rep. Mike Pompeo: Frank, it’s great to be with you. I actually I didn’t have a combat tour but there were days that felt like it for sure.
FG: I’m sure I’m sure; let me talk to you about combat at the moment sir leadership fight in the House of Representatives. Any insights on how that’s likely to sort?
MP: Well yes sir, we as a caucus are looking for a conservative leader to take the House forward. Today, I think where it sits there’s been about half dozen folks that have expressed some interest, including me, and we’re trying to find the right place, we’re trying to figure it out. If Congressman Paul Ryan is full throated and wants to do it, I believe he is a man with deep conservative instincts. I know there others who have attacked him. I’ve gotten to know Paul; he started out in the Kansas delegation as a staff person. I know Paul by heart and his heart is for freedom and liberty and has worked on crushing the entitlements without crushing the people of Kansas and all across America has been noble and unequalled, so I’m hopeful that he will move forward and we can rally to him. I mean we, America, can rally to him. I think that’d be a great turn for our country.
FG: We’ll be watching it closely as well of course you, and I very intrigued to hear that you might be a candidate yourself. Going to be doubly interested in the outcome as a result. Congressman, a couple of other things that I’d like to touch on just quickly with you. There is a rising level of violence against Israel at the moment. Some of it has been described as kind of a third intifada, but there certainly seems to be a growing appetite on the part of Israel’s other enemies to go at it with her. Do you think it’s likely that at least part of why this is happening is a sense that the United States is no longer standing behind Israel as it has in the past, at the UN and elsewhere for that matter, under President Obama?
MP: Frank I think it is almost certain that that’s the case. Whether you are a member of Hamas in the Gaza Strip or Palestinian in the West Bank, you watch a President of the United States who has consistently sided with the side that was opposing Israel for his entire time in office, and you realize that you have but a year and a half left to make as much progress as you can, and know that when you do that how you’ll be met with relatively little resistance, so I think it is Look at the case that you now have Russian aircraft flying within about two minutes of the Israeli borders, and that is a fundamental strategic shift, and I think everyone watches that. I know the Israelis are watching it closely, but I think those that want to destroy Israel are watching it equally closely and know that they have a window of opportunity.
FG: Yeah that’s a chilling thought and I’m afraid you’re absolutely right. Congressman, tonight Hillary Clinton will be presumably inveighing against the Select Committee on which you serve concerning Benghazi, deriding it, frankly unfortunately, partly by reference to your Majority Leader, Kevin McCarthy, that this is just all political witch-hunt. You’ve been serving on that Committee for sometime, you’ve take an exception to this kind of characterization. Give us the flavor of what your response to Hillary would be?
MP: Frank I always, when I’m involved in something, just speak about the facts as I know them. I’ve watched this Committee operate in the House since May of 2014. I’ve watched us attempt to get a hold of documents, I’ve watched Secretary Clinton and the State Department behave in the most obstructionist way. I’ve watched our Democrat colleagues on the Committee do the same; they haven’t lifted one figure to get a single fact about the death of four Americans on their watch too. And I’ve watched this Committee behave in a way that is incredibly professional and aimed at getting answers. We’ve been back to dozens and dozens of depositions and interviews, we’ve looked to tens of thousands of documents. Secretary Clinton has been a very small part of that, but she was the senior U.S. diplomat when one of her ambassadors was killed. It would be investigatory malpractice if we didn’t conduct a hearing with her and we’ll do it a week from now.
FG: Yeah you’ll be talking with her on that occasion, the hearing with Hillary Clinton much anticipated long awaited, among other things about her conduct of email insecurity I guess is one way of putting it, with respect to among other things to the Benghazi matter. There have been claims that this is all much to do about nothing. Your quick assessment of her culpability for misconduct in that regard?
MP: I think it’s pretty apparent when the Secretary of State is telling nearly every employee in the State Department we have to have you conducting official business on official government equipment and communications lines, but she creates an exception for herself. I think that tells you the answer about the risk that was created when someone doesn’t follow the procedures that put in place not only for the good of the Secretary of State but for the safety of all the people that work for and around her.
FG: Does it trouble you Congressman Mike Pompeo of Kansas, that the President of the United States, in the midst of investigation by his Justice Department and the FBI, has said that he doesn’t think there was any problem in terms of national security?
MP: That was both weird and unsurprising if you can hold those two thoughts at the same time Frank. No, I mean there’s a significant investigation being undertaken by Director Comey of the FBI and that he do the work and get to a conclusion and share that conclusion with American people whatever it might be. Very odd to see the President of the United States predetermine the outcome of that investigation.
FG: Well one hopes it doesn’t contaminate the pursuit of the facts either by the Executive Branch or by yourself and the other in the Congress. Two other quick issues if we can Congressman, and we’re going to do a lightening round here. You have come up on the net rather vigorously as has one of your Senate colleagues, Senator Pat Roberts, and the Governor of your State of Kansas, Governor Sam Brownback, against the idea of President Obama depositing at Fort Leavenworth detainees from Guantanamo Bay. Why is that a problem?
MP: Well Frank I don’t want them anywhere but the place that they are for starters. They need to be held in the exact place.
FG: As you say, not in anybody’s back yard not just yours.
MP: Yeah right not in anybody’s backyard, they need to be held there because it’s an enormously important intelligence collection asset for us, to have the ability to bring unlawful enemy combatants to a location where we can conduct interrogations to take down al-Qaeda and ISIS and all the network of jihadists around them, so I don’t want them anywhere putting them in the state, whether it’s Fort Leavenworth or anyplace else presents enormous risk to our nation and a feeding frenzy for liberal plaintiff lawyers who will do everything they can to make sure those folks never come to trial.
FG: Yeah and perhaps jihadist as well. Lastly, and we only have a minute or so left Congressman Mike Pompeo, you have been at the forefront of the effort to defeat what I call the ObamaBomb deal. Does the recent test of a long-range missile with apparently maneuvering warhead capabilities, clearly a nuclear delivery system, by the Iranians in the midst of all this business of providing them among other things $150 billion dollars in windfall funds, cause us a new basis for opposing this agreement?
MP: It most certainly does, it is precisely what one might expect from a deal of this nature. It’s amazing the Obama administration has already conceded it violates the UN resolution. It has not yet conceded that it violates the agreement itself. My sense is that it does, I need to see the technical activity that took place. I have not seen that formally, but put the legal aside for just a moment. It is certainly is telling about the Iranians intent to continue to develop a nuclear arsenal and I suspect we will see more of that. The President said sanctions will snap back, I think it’s time.
FG: Yeah well, I’m not holding my breath and I know you’re not either, but I’m hoping that you will redouble your efforts Congressman with everything else on your plate to scupper this deal, you’ve done a very heroic job so far and we need to get it put over the top finally. Congressman Mike Pompeo again, thank you very much for your visits with us periodically. We appreciate them enormously as do your leadership in the United States Congress on the Energy Committee, in the Intelligence Committee, and of course not least in the Select Committee on Benghazi. We look forward to talking with you perhaps after Hillary Clinton’s appearance next week. Keep up the good work my friend come back to us soon.
With Rep. Mike Pompeo, Luis Fleischman, Andy McCarthy, Gordon Chang
Rep. MIKE POMPEO (KS-4): Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Select Committee on Benghazi:
- The fight for leadership in the House of Representatives
- Third Intifada against Israel a result of a weakened alliance between Washington and Jerusalem
- House Select Committee on Benghazi to conduct a hearing with Hillary Clinton
- Fighting to stop Guantanamo Bay detainees being relocated to Ft. Leavenworth prison in Kansas
- Test of Iranian missile with possible warhead delivery system yet another flaw in nuclear agreement with Tehran
LUIS FLEISCHMAN, Senior Advisor to the Center for Security Policy’s Menges Hemispheric Security Project:
- Peace negotiations between the Colombian government and the FARC terrorists
- Upcoming parliamentary elections in Venezuela
ANDY McCARTHY, Former Federal Prosecutor, and author of “Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case for Obama’s Impeachment”:
- Administration errors concerning its Syria strategy
- Shift in Obama’s policy in backing Syrian rebels
- Importance of Saudi scholars preaching against al-Baghdadi’s teachings
GORDON CHANG, Author of “The Coming Collapse of China”:
- Latest regarding the U.S. Navy’s freedom of navigation in the South China Sea
- Hillary Clinton’s political opportunism regarding the TPP
- Possibility of China joining the TPP
- Nicaraguan canal’s financial issues following Chinese economic downturn
- Most recent Chinese trade outlook
Today we have the pleasure of Congressman Mike Pompeo, a West Point and Harvard graduate as well as a veteran of the U.S. Army. But not least of all, the representative of the fourth congressional district of Kansas and a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence as well as the a member of the Select Committee on Benghazi. He will use his experience and expertise from all these facets is his conversation with Secure Freedom Radio today. Click here for the audio version.
FG: Welcome to Secure Freedom Radio. This is Frank Gaffney, your host and guide for what I think of as an intelligence briefing on the war for the free world. One of the most intelligent men I know in public life these days is joining us to talk a bit about a variety of issues that are in his portfolios on Capitol Hill. He is Congressman Mike Pompeo. He represents with the greatest of distinction the people of the fourth district of Kansas. He is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, also a member of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, and the Select Committee on Benghazi. He has been much in the news of late, thank God, with his colleague on the Senate side of the Hill, Senator Tom Cotton, for some work that they have done with enormous consequence with respect to the Iran deal. And it’s a delight to have him back to talk about that and more. Congressman, welcome. It’s good to have you here, sir.
MP: Frank, those are very kind words. Thank you for having me on the show today.
FG: I was listening yesterday to an interview with one of your colleagues on the House Intelligence Committee, in fact the ranking member of that committee, the Democratic member, Adam Schiff. And he proceeded to go through pretty much the party line on the Iran deal, and I’d like to just get a, well, a sanity check I guess to put it charitably, truth squading of his comments with you very quickly. One, he insisted as has the president, and of course others, that all pathways to an Iranian nuclear bomb have now been closed by this deal. Is that your reading, sir?
MP: No, Frank, and in fact, just the opposite, and I should say, I’m surprised. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Representative Schiff. He is a very bright man, a very thoughtful man. I’ve been on the Intelligence Committee now with him for a while, and he’s usually able to think his way to the right conclusion. He’s just really ended up in a really dangerous place for America. Not only is every pathway to a nuclear bomb not closed, this deal virtually guarantees that over some time the Iranians will end not only with one nuclear weapon but the capacity for an entire arsenal for weapons. Whether they cheat in the short run or comply and it takes a little longer, the Iranian nuclear program will be alive and well, and things that foment such as weaponization and research of weaponization are completely free to continue during the duration of this agreement.
FG: Which brings me to a question that, of course, is front and center for folks like yourself in the Intelligence Committee oversight business, and that is verification. Congressman Schiff made the, again, standard representation that we’ve got this covered. All sights, I think he said, are going to be subject to the most comprehensive verification in history. Again, your take on it.
MP: The agreement itself falls far short, and we can expect that even the written word won’t be followed through. These folks, the Iranians, will cheat. The ayatollahs have cheated on every agreement they’ve ever entered into. There’s no reason to expect they won’t here. With respect to verification, at declared sites the IAEA is supposed to have immediate access. I suspect they will never get that. We know about these two secret side deals that Senator Cotton and I identified. Those are verification agreements that the American people will never get a chance to see. So we have no earthly idea nor does Adam Schiff have any idea what verification procedures are going to take place at some very, very important Iranian military sites.
FG: And in fact, if I can just say that the Iranians have said there aren’t going to be any inspections of those sites, period, ever, by the IAEA let alone by us.
MP: That’s precisely right. No American has seen those agreements. No American is in possession of those agreements. And so, I don’t know how any member of Congress can in good conscience say that there’s a verification regime when the two most important verification documents are completely unseen to them and to the American people.
FG: Let me ask you about that, Congressman Mike Pompeo, because of late there have been references by Secretary of Energy Moniz and I believe by Undersecretary Wendy Sherman who is intimately involved as well in this negotiation that actually people at the Department of Energy and Wendy herself have seen these deals. That would seem to be at odds with what you were told in Vienna last week. Where do you think the truth lies on this?
MP: That’s a good question. Wendy Sherman has indicated that she has seen the documents. I don’t know if that means, Frank, that they were in a truck that drove past the window or if she actually had a chance to sit down and review them. My sense is that it is closer to the former than the latter, but I don’t know. Here’s what I do know for sure. They don’t have a copy. I’ve heard the briefings about what they think they know about what’s in them, but that requires me to trust third-hand information much like the child’s game of mailbox.
FG: The old telephone game, yeah, right.
MP: Exactly. What the American people are being asked to believe what the IAEA told Wendy Sherman to a member of Congress who then tells them. That is fourth or fifth hand about these important, core parts of the agreement. It’s simply unacceptable and presents additional risks to this deal.
FG: We’re speaking again with Congressman Mike Pompeo, a member of the House Intelligence a Committee, a man who served in the uniform of this country, the United States Army, after graduating first in his class from West Point. Distinguished record both in uniform and out, and now doing incalculably important service in serving as a, well, a real overseer of this Iran deal. And let me ask you, Congressman, just from a procedural point of view, there have been those who have said, wait a minute, the Corker-Cardin legislation that established, I should say, for Congress some kind of vote on this whole can of worms had as a provision that they were going to be required, the administration, to give Congress all aspects of the deal and it seems as though the clock should not have started unless and until that has happened. And yet it seems as though we are proceeding as thought the clock has started. We are now into forty days I guess left . What is your reading on that, and whose calls should it be whether in fact the clock is running?
MP: Well, Frank, the agreement, Corker-Cardin, the president signed a handful of weeks ago, makes very clear that the United States Congress must receive within five days of the deal all of the documents. Indeed, inside in the agreement, in the definition, subparagraph H1 has the term side agreement. Everyone understood that there was some risk with this president that there might some deal between parties that the United States would turn a blind eye to. And Congress said no we want to see those, too. And the administration agreed that we would get them. Until all of the documents have been turned over the clock has not started. So I am completely convinced that the sixty-day time period for our review requirement has not begun. That’s important because until that period expiries the president can’t waive these sanctions that we haven’t had a chance to talk about yet, but present enormous risks. I am hopeful that Congress and the president will come to an accommodation. We sent a letter to the president asking him about how this review process will actually proceed.
FG: Well, we are completely with you on that, needless to say, and hope that you are successful in working with your own leadership which seems to me ought to have a say in this if not the say on when the clock starts and look forward to following closely what you’re able to get done there. Congressman, of course, as member of the Energy and Commerce Committee as well as the Intelligence Committee you’ve allowed me to ask you from time to time about the threat that Iran poses to this country. It’s not just Israel, not just our other interest and allies such as they are in the Middle East, but to the American people as well. Over the period that you’ve been studying this deal, is there now even greater reason to be concerned that there is an existential threat perhaps to this country from Iran should it succeed in getting either nuclear weapons for an electromagnetic pulse attack on our electric grid, for example, or their cyber capabilities, or more, especially if as you say these sanctions are lifted and they are enriched beyond imagination.
FG: Frank, that is a great point, and an important one for every American to consider. The president has sold this as a nuclear deal, and we’re dealing only with the capacity to launch an ICBM across the ocean. In fact, this president has now agreed to release sanctions all across the Iranian economy, and to put that into context, whether its an EMP weapon that attacks our grid or more conventional terror attack, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, the Shia militias in Iraq, all of the Iranian Quds Force, their special forces, will have hundreds of billions of dollars to expand their terror capacity not only in the Middle East but around the world. And you don’t have to listen for long. They don’t talk about death to Republicans or death to Democrats; they talk about death to Americans. There is no indication they have changed their mindset, the intention of the destruction of Israel and of the West, the great Satan America remains the same. And now they will have more resources to do it.
FG: This is a staggeringly important point, and I hope Democrats who will be, as you say, targeted, Congressman Mike Pompeo, will be mindful of it and voting accordingly, rising above partisanship in other words to support you in defeating this very reckless deal. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us us and for the very terrific work you are doing. I hope you will keep it up and come back to us very soon.
With Rep. Mike Pompeo, Sidney Powell, Diana West, Dr. Arthur Brooks
Rep. MIKE POMPEO, United States Representative for Kansas’s Fourth Congressional District:
- Why the Iran deal still allows the Islamic Republic to obtain nuclear weapons
- The major holes in the new verification regime, especially regarding inspections
- Secret side deals between Iran and the IAEA, kept from Congress and the American people
- When the 60-day countdown for Congress to review the Iran deal should start
- How sanctions relief will help Tehran threaten the U.S. through an EMP attack and terrorism
- Judge Emmet Sullivan’s two cases concerning the Judicial Watch lawsuits against the State Department and the IRS
- Penalty of perjury for Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, and Cheryl Mills
- Department of Justice complicity in crimes committed by former Secretary of State Clinton
DIANA WEST, Author of “American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character”:
- Remembering the great Cold War historian and poet Robert Conquest
- Socialism’s longstanding active role in American leftist politics
- Comparing the Yalta Conference at the end of World War II to today’s Iran deal
Dr. ARTHUR BROOKS, President of the American Enterprise Institute and author of The Conservative Heart: How to Build a Fairer, Happier, and More Prosperous America:
- How GOP candidates need to channel their bases’ anger into aspiration
- The urgent need to reform the high-skill immigration visa policy as well as the guest worker program
- U.S. moving towards a European styled social democratic form of government?
- Iran deal hinges on “Republicans winning elections by making an aspirational case to expand their coalitions”
Rep. Mike Pompeo (KS-4) and Rep. Barry Loudermilk (GA-11) joined Secure Freedom Radio on Tuesday to discuss among many things, the vulnerability of the U.S. electric grid. With Rep. Pompeo on the House Select Committee on Intelligence and Rep. Loudermilk on the House Homeland Security Committee, their insider information and dire warnings couldn’t come soon enough. Listen here and tell your representative “it’s time we secure the grid”.
Rep. Barry Loudermilk (GA-11) on vulnerabilities to the U.S. electric grid:
“Well you know the grid has always been an important factor in the U.S. since we started distributing electricity on a broad scale. In the past, it has been predominantly because the industry relied on it – the health and safety and security of individuals. But we have become so dependent on electricity- every aspect, from our economy to financial to health care, national security- every aspect of our society is dependent on having electricity readily available and reliable.
As we’ve seen growth in technology, we’ve seen growth in technology management of the grid, and so now the professions of infrastructure goes not just from the physical, but also to the cyber side because most of the substations- the delivery mechanism of the electric grid- are all controlled electronically and in large part use the internet to do that. So the susceptibility to an attack is beyond just the physical and has moved into the cyber. We’ve taken a lot of emphasis on the cyber side, but still have to realize there is a physical security threat that is there as well.
Most people think of the large providers of electricity, but just in Georgia, we have scores of small municipal owned electric providers that don’t have the infrastructure for protecting their connectivity or the physical security that larger companies have. Those are other areas we are looking at.”
Rep. Mike Pompeo (KS-4) on whether enough is being done to protect the grid:
“I was very pleased with what Homeland Security did last week. I’m glad they got this critical infrastructure bill out of Committee but if that’s to become law, there’s still an awful lot more work to be done.
We’ve got to engage businesses that run our energy infrastructure and make sure that they are as near impenetrable as possible. I think the average citizen doesn’t appreciate what it would mean if there were an attack. Whether it’s a terrorist attack on a hard facility, an EMP attack, or someone who just commits a cyber attack on the grid; shutting down a fraction of Americas energy grid for even a short period of time would cost an enormous amount of money and will impact every American in ways that are very significant.
It will make the natural disasters we have from time to time pale in comparison”
With Rep. Mike Pompeo, Gordon Chang, Rep. Barry Loudermilk, Dr. Tevi Troy
Rep. MIKE POMPEO (KS-4), Member of House Select Committee on Intelligence, and House Select Committee on Benghazi:
- Status of the Iran negotiations one day away from June 30th deadline
- Implications of the recent OPM hack on the US ability to conduct counter intelligence
- Ways Congress can protect this country’s most vulnerable infrastructure
- When will the truth be told about what happened at the U.S. embassy in Benghazi?
GORDON CHANG, Columnist at Forbes.com and blogs at World Affairs Journal:
- Recent meetings between Chinese and American officials in Washington
- Intensified military cooperation in the South China Sea
- Last month’s Chinese-Russian Naval exercises in the Mediterranean
- The US projecting weakness to China
Rep. BARRY LOUDERMILK (GA-11), Member, House Homeland Security Committee:
- The US addiction to electricity
- Threat of geomagnetic solar storms to the electric grid
- How the Islamic State has had the ability to gain so many foreign fighters
Dr. TEVI TROY, President of the American Health Policy Institute:
- The genesis and characteristics of MERS
- A recent flare-up of the Avian Flu and today’s threats from bioterrorism
Rep. MIKE POMPEO, U.S. Representative for Kansas’ 4th Congressional District:
- Ramifications of the Corker-Cardin Bill
- The vulnerability of the U.S.’s electrical grid
- Will Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act be allowed to expire?
- Hillary Clinton’s refusal to hand over Benghazi documents
DAVID KRAMER, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs:
- Was there a point to Secretary of State Kerry’s visit to Sochi, Russia last week?
- Why President Obama refuses to provide military aid to Ukraine, despite Congressional approval
- Ukrainian regret over giving up their nuclear weapons post-Cold War
- The persecution of religious minorities in the Middle East
ANDY McCARTHY, former U.S. federal prosecutor:
- The jihadist attack on free speech, and how Hillary Clinton’s State Department supported it
- Why the “Iraq War” question posed to presidential candidates is flawed
GORDON CHANG, author of The Coming Collapse of China:
- Freedom of navigation increasingly imperiled by China in the South China Sea
- WSJ reports that the US may intrude on what China considers to be its exclusive nautical territory
- Just how many North Korean military officials have been executed since Kim Jong-un took power?
- Western backlash against the Chinese government-backed Confucius Institutes
With Michael Waller, Chris Farrell, Rep. Mike Pompeo, Bill Gertz
Dr. MICHAEL WALLER, Senior Writer at the American Media Institute:
- Still-unknown national security implications of Hillary Clinton’s private email server
- Factors that make a Secretary of State an intelligence goldmine for hostile adversaries
- Did the Muslim Brotherhood obtain critical intelligence on U.S. foreign policy by exploiting Huma Abedin’s position at the State Department?
CHRIS FARRELL, Director of Investigations and Research at Judicial Watch:
- Assessing the likelihood that Russian and Chinese intelligence penetrated Hillary Clinton’s private email server
- Judicial Watch lawsuits in DC court on Clinton’s email server, Benghazi, Huma Abedin’s employment status, and the Clinton’s involvement in Haiti in 2009
- Raising the alarm on Islamic State operatives present at the U.S./Mexican border
- An alleged botched bombing in Minnesota carried out by a Somali immigrant
- Negligence in vetting refugees resettling in the U.S.
Rep. MIKE POMPEO (KS-4), member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence and House Select Committee on Benghazi:
- Discovery during a Congressional investigation that Hillary Clinton’s private emails were deleted without any third party review
- U.S. assistance in Iraq is pushing back the Islamic State and Al Qaeda, but leaving a void for Iranian-supported Shiite Iraqi militias
- Why a Senate Foreign Relations Committee bill regarding Congressional review of a final Iranian nuclear agreement is not all that meets the eye
- Thoughts on the Qatari government’s impending release of the five Taliban commanders infamously exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl
BILL GERTZ, Senior Editor at the Washington Free Beacon:
- Senate Armed Services Committee testimony on Russia’s “Cold War posture” towards the U.S.
- The reduction of the U.S. nuclear arsenal to levels consistent with the 2010 new START treaty
- Intelligence reports suggesting North Korea sent missile shipments to Iran during the Lausanne talks
- “Crisis of the military” as a lack of funding hits the 82nd Airborne